Sitting atop 2.8-3.0 gr of titegroup, these are hard hitting, and sound great.
Only way they could be improved upon would be an expanding hollow point
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
165 gr. 9mm
January 20, 2018
Reviewer:
Mark Plummer from Vaughn, WA United States
I have loaded over 3,000 of these in mixed brass with Federal or Remington primers for more then three years. My favorite load is 2.8 gr. of Red Dot with a OAL of 1.152. It fits in all my magazines and makes between 128 and 135 power factor in all my handguns. It shoots reliably in my M&P Shield, STI 5" 1911 and my other 9's. Shoots well in carbines and has proven itself in IDPA and USPSA competition. Where I always finish in the top 10.... from the bottom! But it is never the bullets fault! As other reviewers have stated, it is very soft. This is my favorite 9mm bullet. I always finish my loads with a Factory Crimp Die.
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Soft shooting and accurate out of a Shadow 2
December 8, 2017
Reviewer:
Jay from Florida
I shoot a CZ Shadow 2. I first tried loading to a COL of 1.185, recommended by a friend who shoots these. Passed the chamber check but, I couldn't load more than 4 or 5 in the magazine. I read that seating these to SAAMI max COL would swage the base of the bullet. At that point I had nothing to lose so I nudged it in little by little until it would clear the front of the magazine. I ended up @ 1.169 which is exactly SAMMI max. I'm using Speer nickle plated cases with Winchester small pistol primers. I settled on 2.6gn of Cleanshot (Shooters World... I love this stuff). It just makes PF but, if it were a big match I'd probably go 2.7, maybe 2.8gn just to be sure all the rounds meet minimum PF. The recoil is unbelievably soft and it's never been so easy or fast to get back on target. I've never shot as tight of groups as I do with this setup when shooting long strings of rapid fire. I can't wait 'til they go on sale again.
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Great bullets for shooting suppressed
October 29, 2017
Reviewer:
Ken from PA United States
I love these heavyweights. I've pushed them pretty hard too and never had an issue.
To the reviewer who gave 2 stars: it really bothers me when someone gives a poor review that is undeserved. If your denting the bullets it's because you're doing something wrong, its not the fault of the bullet. Bell the case more and/or use a seating stem that fits the bullet better. With any plated bullet it's important to have a good fit, these especially.
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Looks nice but it's very soft.
September 30, 2017
Reviewer:
Iric Viscarra from Honolulu , HI United States
These bullets are nice and uniform but I was disappointed when i loaded it using my dillon 550 reloader..the tip of the bullet is always dented,i tried to load 20 rnds and the result is still the same.too bad I purchased 1500 rnds and I don't want to load these bullets anymore.
These are great. 
Looks nice but it's very soft.
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